tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post7978897097056733402..comments2023-04-02T12:34:49.236+03:00Comments on The Deck Out: Rayquaza & Deoxys LEGEND going rogueThe Deck Outhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05213066863344971810noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-79287504411225083862012-01-16T14:59:47.072+02:002012-01-16T14:59:47.072+02:00You're correct. Everyone who has ever tested t...You're correct. Everyone who has ever tested the 2nd list have said that it's THE most difficult to play ever with. It's difficult to play even without an opponent and when the opponent steps in the picture, things get mad difficult.<br /><br />Switch is a great card in the 1st because sometimes - as you said - you don't have enough energy on RDL. It also gives you mobility all The Deck Outhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05213066863344971810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-51578140459142755052012-01-15T13:33:11.033+02:002012-01-15T13:33:11.033+02:00I tried the 2nd list and holy crap, that is one &q...I tried the 2nd list and holy crap, that is one "Difficulty Level: Insane" deck! After a few rounds of Solitaire I changed to the 1st list (with a few tweaks) and I found it much easier and better :)<br /><br />Do you think that running 2-3 Switch would help in the 1st list? After RDL attacks, I usually can't find another way to power him up other than Ninetales UL's Heat 888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-44853313758036880222011-11-29T13:37:54.314+02:002011-11-29T13:37:54.314+02:00Tonu: Yeah, I played Emolga in Eelektrik/Zekrom de...Tonu: Yeah, I played Emolga in Eelektrik/Zekrom deck so I didn't overlook it, Entei is just so great because you get a free retreat to it ASAP with Heat Acceleration. The difference between 70 ja 90 HP is huge because it makes Entei away of Tornadus' OHKO range without PlusPower.The Deck Outhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05213066863344971810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-31485795008661253072011-11-29T10:50:31.935+02:002011-11-29T10:50:31.935+02:00"Esa: Entei is the most HP Basic Pokémon whic..."Esa: Entei is the most HP Basic Pokémon which has a free retreat so it was the best choice."<br /><br />Have to agree on that but in order to get it to free Retreat cost, it needs at least 2 Fire Energy cards on it. The thing I may not agree with is your sentence's *the best* part. I think that you may have been overlooked some other possible 0 retreat Basic Pokémon, Emolga EP. <brTonunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-33759435978976120272011-11-11T21:00:35.336+02:002011-11-11T21:00:35.336+02:00rax: Engineer is a great card if you can't use...rax: Engineer is a great card if you can't use Super Rod - true. I forgot to mention that when I was writing this but the article was mainly for NV. Glad that you liked it!<br /><br />Zarmakuizz: In fact, I once ran EnteiRaikou LEGEND in the list but I noticed that you really can't run 3 LEGENDS because you want it on your bench like T2-3. With Entei&Raikou you won't get it fast The Deck Outhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05213066863344971810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-21399190171803305882011-11-09T23:32:54.006+02:002011-11-09T23:32:54.006+02:00Why not Entei&Raikou Legend as a free retreati...Why not Entei&Raikou Legend as a free retreating Pokémon ? He has 50 more HP, so it makes it more difficult to OHKO, he has free retreat from the beginning, and it can't be a bad start.Zarmakuizzhttp://www.pokecardex.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-24417897407563631332011-11-08T16:10:38.919+02:002011-11-08T16:10:38.919+02:00I built the first list last night and played a few...I built the first list last night and played a few games and made a few changes. This is seriously the most fun list I have played since before Catcher came out. Thank you very much. <br /><br />The main change I made was to change up the Supporter lines --- I found that with Juniper I kept having to Juniper away RDL pieces, and since I'm building without NV right now I didn't have the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-24488839152398849212011-11-07T12:50:34.278+02:002011-11-07T12:50:34.278+02:00oTYo: The free retreat is more than necessary in t...oTYo: The free retreat is more than necessary in the real matches because you can't miss a energy here. Once you set-up, you must attack every turn in order to win the game and if you want to attack every turn you need eevery energy possible. That's why retreating 1-2 during a game will cost you the game. When I first tried the deck I was surprised how important addition Entei really was The Deck Outhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05213066863344971810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-55754260800785250122011-11-07T03:50:42.676+02:002011-11-07T03:50:42.676+02:00Do you need a tank pokemon with free retreat thoug...Do you need a tank pokemon with free retreat though? <br /><br />I can see the need for a free retreat pokemon, since RDL will die and you want to be able to legend box another one onto the bench and retreat into it for free. <br /><br />I can see the need for a decent hp pokemon, since you don't want the fire energies you play down to die to snipes, and don't exactly want to give away oTYonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-21432789999742756982011-11-06T13:47:00.123+02:002011-11-06T13:47:00.123+02:00Entei is good but the other option is to run 1-2 S...Entei is good but the other option is to run 1-2 Switches and one very high HP Pokémon like Reshiram or Zekrom. The only problem is that you need the Switch all the time if you run any Pokéon that hasn't a free retreat. Entei is the most HP Basic Pokémon which has a free retreat so it was the best choice. If you decide to run Switches the deck's consistency will suffer once again and The Deck Outhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05213066863344971810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-40938404080278517352011-11-06T05:53:14.558+02:002011-11-06T05:53:14.558+02:00Are you convinced that Entei is worth it? It isn&#...Are you convinced that Entei is worth it? It isn't that bulky and the free retreat doesn't seem that useful (especially since retreating a nintales isn't a big deal) Also I'd run a switch or two and a seekerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-40778297486577714962011-11-06T00:03:13.112+02:002011-11-06T00:03:13.112+02:00oTYo: Slugma ia a very good addition to the deck. ...oTYo: Slugma ia a very good addition to the deck. I tried it first but couldn't find enough space and consistency to justify it in the deck. Research Records helps with Slugma a lot but the deck still faces the space issue. <br /><br />Great to know that you tried it out!The Deck Outhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05213066863344971810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-75537802199442037332011-11-05T11:16:18.769+02:002011-11-05T11:16:18.769+02:00Hmm I've run through some test hands and done ...Hmm I've run through some test hands and done some thinking about the second list. So far I've found it challenging!<br /><br /> I'm not sure how to solo test it with smeargle active haha, I might just get another deck out and see what supporters it opens with. <br /><br />One thing that I think might be a problem is if they kill things that I attach energy to. Then I won't be oTYonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-64201682629255021742011-11-04T23:50:25.864+02:002011-11-04T23:50:25.864+02:00I lost against DH´s RDL in Tampere BR.:DI lost against DH´s RDL in Tampere BR.:DLuffymcduckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09979045215073241130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-1315861847443368222011-11-04T21:48:26.584+02:002011-11-04T21:48:26.584+02:00Adam: Yeah Mynx is exactly that deck. I know it do...Adam: Yeah Mynx is exactly that deck. I know it doesn't seem too difficult to play but I can promise that it is. The main difficulty - as I stated in my article - is the timing of the things. If you time anything wrong, you've pretty much outplayed yourself. If you have any spare time(which I guess you don't :P) you should try it out and be surprised how awfulyl difficult it really isThe Deck Outhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05213066863344971810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-41567950780802340162011-11-04T21:27:59.934+02:002011-11-04T21:27:59.934+02:00I played something like the 2nd list in Tampere BR...I played something like the 2nd list in Tampere BRs last week - came out 1-5.<br /><br />But I can mainly blame myself. In only 2 games against Reshiphlosion the deck didn't do what it should've. 3 games could've been won.<br /><br />Game 1 I stalled a bit too long in order to not activate Twins from my opponent. Turns out, he gets Vileplume and I have to manually charge RayDeo. Dennis Hawknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-55916967383774928532011-11-04T20:33:13.607+02:002011-11-04T20:33:13.607+02:00Is Mynx the deck with Wobbuffet LM and Pows? That ...Is Mynx the deck with Wobbuffet LM and Pows? That was one hell of a complicated deck! I didn't even bother learning it. :P<br /><br />Is your 2nd list really that difficult to play? It looks deceptively simple.<br /><br />Love the article Esa! Keep up the great work. :)Adam Capriolahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05632382039626913713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-29557030888099587582011-11-04T15:02:51.542+02:002011-11-04T15:02:51.542+02:00Big Daddy Smug Cat: I think RDL is still a great t...Big Daddy Smug Cat: I think RDL is still a great tech in any Emboar deck. Straight RDL/Emboar doesn't work but fro example in ResiBoar RDL is a great tech.<br /><br />oTYo: I haven't thought about Energy Search, it's a good idea but the only thing I'm considered is that you run out or energy. Even thoug the energy count seems high, there are games where you aren't able to The Deck Outhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05213066863344971810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-69846579021749347052011-11-04T03:08:56.230+02:002011-11-04T03:08:56.230+02:00For your third list, since your goal is to burn th...For your third list, since your goal is to burn through your deck, do you think energy search would help? I guess you'd draw into less energy though so you wouldn't get to roast reveal as much maybe. <br />I'm going to have a go at building something similar to the second list. It looks super fun hahaoTYonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-36556808233910053072011-11-04T02:44:32.145+02:002011-11-04T02:44:32.145+02:00Really enjoyed the analysis. Do you see any hope f...Really enjoyed the analysis. Do you see any hope for it being in emboar still? Or are speed buils that much better?Big Daddy Smug Catnoreply@blogger.com