tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post8483024149381800477..comments2023-04-02T12:34:49.236+03:00Comments on The Deck Out: Empoleon/Terrakion & Empoleon/DonphanThe Deck Outhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05213066863344971810noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-37189039902824672202013-02-13T05:16:32.871+02:002013-02-13T05:16:32.871+02:00i run cheren and juniper... only 2 juniper though....i run cheren and juniper... only 2 juniper though. try it and you will find it helps alot more. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-43424171782733263582012-06-23T12:53:43.935+03:002012-06-23T12:53:43.935+03:00Thanks a lot everyone for the comments! I got a gr...Thanks a lot everyone for the comments! I got a great idea for my next article from those. <br /><br />Anonymous: I'll try to make an article about those decks in time before Nationals! It'll probably be a combined article just like this one.<br /><br />BloodBane: The choice between Dual Ball and Collector is completely a personal preference. In the current format I hate Collector becauseThe Deck Outhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05213066863344971810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-26986196654744816192012-06-22T19:31:26.849+03:002012-06-22T19:31:26.849+03:00Hi Esa!
Great article once again! I have been won...Hi Esa!<br /><br />Great article once again! I have been wondering about some things as we now know now that BW-on is the new format..<br /><br />Do you think that decks like Zekrom are absolutely dead now? I personally see it very hard to play Zekrom now because Junk Arms and Cleffa will not be on the new format anymore. I had two decks - Kinda basic Zekrom (with Tornadus EX and Mewtwo EX) and Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-77175820110173831082012-06-22T06:38:46.180+03:002012-06-22T06:38:46.180+03:00Hi Esa, if you ever make an updated Nationals Zeke...Hi Esa, if you ever make an updated Nationals Zekeels articles for all the players at US/Canadian/Any other upcoming Nats, I would love that. This is my first nationals so I'm just trying to be prepared.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-30573793367967050312012-06-21T10:20:13.811+03:002012-06-21T10:20:13.811+03:00A great article Esa; as well-written as ever.
I&#...A great article Esa; as well-written as ever.<br /><br />I'm going to use this to help turn my Empoleon build around. It's been losing a lot and I hope learning from you will help out. :) <br /><br />Thank you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-51598108384097568982012-06-20T21:35:01.830+03:002012-06-20T21:35:01.830+03:00Esa, please do a blog on a new and improved Vanill...Esa, please do a blog on a new and improved Vanilluxe because of its unexpected appearance at many recent nationals!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-90045544921189585092012-06-19T21:46:23.594+03:002012-06-19T21:46:23.594+03:00I used to play Prisms for that same reason. I'...I used to play Prisms for that same reason. I'd rather use Prism because Terrakion only needs 1 PlusPower to OHKO a "rainbowed" Virizion with Land Crush or Retaliate . If you want to do something about Terras, I'd drop Smeargles and run 3 Virizions. It's a strange suggestion, I know, but I've tested this deck so many times and I'm still amazed on how well Virizion Javier Cerrillohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00570565028389365433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-88749372778018814662012-06-19T18:19:52.478+03:002012-06-19T18:19:52.478+03:00I thought that this was very informative. I am cur...I thought that this was very informative. I am currently playing empoleon/terrakion and have been looking for more articles with lists to compare mine to since mine needs some tweaking. <br /><br />Also, would you run any rainbow energy for virizion to help deal with other terrakions? In my meta Terrakion is just about everywhere.Ashleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16741648925159230330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-75003000503124464792012-06-19T17:26:15.826+03:002012-06-19T17:26:15.826+03:00From my experience, PlusPower helps this deck as a...From my experience, PlusPower helps this deck as an anti-Eviolite for Terrakion against Darkrai-EX (and Zekrom-EX). It also helps against clever opponents trying to manipulate their benchsizes. I like Cheren here instead of Juniper. Discarding an Empoleon or two early game can be brutal. It also fits my play style better - I hate wasting resources in Stage 2 decks where each card is so important.Kakelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-16393452730805312722012-06-19T13:04:54.046+03:002012-06-19T13:04:54.046+03:00I thought that at first, but the deck gets its spe...I thought that at first, but the deck gets its speed out of playing draw supporters/Smeargles/Virizion constantly at the beginning so you get several Empoleons quickly. Besides, you can discard energies and get them back with Rod.Javier Cerrillohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00570565028389365433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-77990500442285809762012-06-19T11:49:38.931+03:002012-06-19T11:49:38.931+03:00I don't like the first list, Collectors are be...I don't like the first list, Collectors are better than Dual Balls any day because you can just discard unwanted copies with Diving Draw.Bloodbanenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-65162252260161850152012-06-19T08:34:53.332+03:002012-06-19T08:34:53.332+03:00Esa - What do you think about the Klinklang and Me...Esa - What do you think about the Klinklang and Meganium decks? These are Darkrai decks because like Kumis.dec they rely on Dark Cloak. However, since they don't run Vileplume, item cards like Eviolite and Max Potion are crucial parts of the strategy. Klinklang won a Battle Roads and was featured on onehitko.com.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-64707038569265566102012-06-19T06:05:52.937+03:002012-06-19T06:05:52.937+03:00How's that going for you?How's that going for you?Cartoon Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04181150927256987125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-70203150458978499172012-06-19T06:05:07.215+03:002012-06-19T06:05:07.215+03:00Very true. Very true.
Now for something fun try ...Very true. Very true.<br /><br />Now for something fun try constructing this kind of deck with the BW-Onward format which will get in September. I'm going to try it myself just to get practicing for the upcoming format.Cartoon Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04181150927256987125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-47026340170638211402012-06-18T22:45:39.765+03:002012-06-18T22:45:39.765+03:00nice article esa. i am actually playing empoleon-...nice article esa. i am actually playing empoleon-terrakion now but using a bw-on format build.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-64635391086824643272012-06-18T22:27:16.013+03:002012-06-18T22:27:16.013+03:00Probably because he's only relying on Terrakio...Probably because he's only relying on Terrakion for Retaliate. And more water means greater probability of having plenty of water to stock your Piplups.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-79580521809775004622012-06-18T22:22:35.983+03:002012-06-18T22:22:35.983+03:00There are only 2 Terrakions opposed to 4 Empoleons...There are only 2 Terrakions opposed to 4 Empoleons so even though they need more energy, you need to attack with Empoleon more often. Also, you usually only use the one fighting attacks with both Terrakion and especially with Donphan (you really can't attach manually 3 energy in the current metagame). <br /><br />Hope that clarified!The Deck Outhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05213066863344971810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3288163204748704829.post-16877305869924552572012-06-18T22:17:06.125+03:002012-06-18T22:17:06.125+03:00One question: since Empoleon only needs one energy...One question: since Empoleon only needs one energy, while Terrakion (& sometimes Donphan) need 2 or 3, why do you run more Water than Fighting?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com